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Old 02-21-2011, 06:05 PM   #1
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35: bogger too much?

i am building a 89 tintop, with 1.6/1.3 carb. i have been offered a great deal on a set of 35x14.5x15 boggers, are these too big? will i be able to turn them? I hope i am not asking too many "" questions
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you not asking to many question but you aren't giving enough information. Whats your set up other than the engine?
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Your avatar pic looks like factory axle tubes. If you're chromos up front, they'll live in the mud. No-go on the rocks.

If you're not running some good gearing, you're going to waste clutches left and right.
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:42 AM   #4
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will be stock axles with 5.13 tracker gears, 2wd tracker trans, stock tcase. possibly a harley carb if i am motivated enough. also not the sammy in the pic, that one is my moms!
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:00 PM   #5
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its gonna be really hard to push 35s with with just 5.13 gears! if you got some lower transfer case gears you'd be in good shape, but those are about $500. but well worth it!!
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Old 02-23-2011, 09:38 AM   #6
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Its really not a matter of if your motor has enough power to run them. Like stated above you will go through clutches trying to run them with out t-case gears. If you upgrade t-case gears then it is a matter of breaking axle shafts, you can upgrade the shafts. But if you plan on running rocks you will break axles sooner or later.
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I run 33x14.5 boggers with 5.38 axle gears, stock motor, case and trans. The 5.38's turn the tires easily, in fact it's a little more than I would like for street driving. Max speed is around 55-60mph with mi FI motor screaming. I'd think that the 5.13's would be ok for street driving, but not great for the rocks or heavy mud. As said above, a t-case gear set would be a great combo with the 5.13's. Minor gear reduction in 2-hi, major reduction in 4-lo where you want it.

Your stock axles wont come close to handling those tires. 35" tall, 14.5" wide, bogger tread pattern... That's a recipe for constant breakage. I cracked three birfields before I upgraded to chromo axles up front. That was taking it easy and knowing that the stock axles were the weak point. I'm still on pins and needles with the chromos since I don't have any spare 26 spline front axles.

Power steering is also a MUST. You'll never be able to turn the 14.5" wide boggers, aired down in the dirt unless the truck is moving. Tracker steering will only help a little. Consider toyota steering or even a ram assist. A good power steering system was one of my best upgrades.
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Old 03-12-2011, 06:42 AM   #8
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axel snapers

With or without gears need to upgrade axels up frount.. Boggers are nice if ya can turn them but they eat up axels
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I am going to be running 35x12.50 boggers with stock axles but with 5.38 gears. As soon as I get finished with my new lift, I know i'm gonna break the sami axles pretty quick. That is why Yota axle's are in my near future.
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I am going to be running 35x12.50 boggers with stock axles but with 5.38 gears. As soon as I get finished with my new lift, I know i'm gonna break the sami axles pretty quick. That is why Yota axle's are in my near future.
they dont make 35/12.50 boggers? u mean 10.50's?
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Yeah I meant 10.50's sorry my bad.
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I have 35x16wide boggers. But they are bald as hell, and I have toyota axles. But yes, good steering is important and gearing as well. Even though you have 5.12's you should get tcase gears too.
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I run 16/35-15 boggers on mine with stock everything. I have 5.12 gears for it. Just not installed yet. So far it's held together. But as stated above, the clutch is not happy with the set up. From doing the math on a calculator that somebody posted on here a while back when i run in low range with my current set up it would be about the same with the 5.12 gears on the high side. As of right now it doesn't have enough power to get the tires spinning to fast in a mud hole and the clutch won't hold good enough to climb much but i guess its better then snapping an axle. I'll get it fixed in time. Slowly collecting parts
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I run 16/35-15 boggers on mine with stock everything. I have 5.12 gears for it. Just not installed yet. So far it's held together. But as stated above, the clutch is not happy with the set up. From doing the math on a calculator that somebody posted on here a while back when i run in low range with my current set up it would be about the same with the 5.12 gears on the high side. As of right now it doesn't have enough power to get the tires spinning to fast in a mud hole and the clutch won't hold good enough to climb much but i guess its better then snapping an axle. I'll get it fixed in time. Slowly collecting parts
have you ever drivven this on street? how does it do?
i am faced with a similair gearing problem, i have 35-15-15 tsl's and am not sure if the 5.12's will turn them
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i have 34 950's and 6.5's yota's 411's and stock 1.3 and i can only pull 40-45 wide open in 4th boggs out in 5th..

the last set up i seen and worked was 5.12' sami axles 4.8's 1.3L
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i am running yota axles with 4.88's, 6.5 case gears, stock motor with weber, 35x14.5 boggers and i can pull in 5th gear. gets weak around 55-60 mph, but can usually hold 55
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i had one with yota axles and 5.25 gears with a 1.6 motor and a weber carb. it had 37.5 boggers and would pull them at 55 down the road till you get to a hill and it would bog( never had to down shift). in the mud in 4low it would pull them as long as i didnt have the tires out of sight in the thick mud. if it had a set of 35s i think it would have done fine. throw that stock carb away and get you a weber. it makes the motor come alive
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I can only speak for running in mud. I have d44's front & rear with 5:13's a 6.5.1 t case with miller locked rear with stock 1.3 motor. I'm running 41x14.50 Irocks. High 1 in mud pulls fine, but will kill any momentum once you shift to 2nd. In low range it will pull them all the way up to third in the mud. It's not a every day driver top speed is around 50 5th gear is non existent with any kind of incline.
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have you ever drivven this on street? how does it do?
i am faced with a similair gearing problem, i have 35-15-15 tsl's and am not sure if the 5.12's will turn them
I have driven it on the street. With the 3.73s it's not something I'd want to run down the highway for long trips. I do get it going 55 (according to gps) in 4th and does ok until I hit a hill.
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i ran 34x10.5 ltbs with 4.625 tracker gears locked front and rear stock motor and tcase and axles...had no issues driving in the mud...its not a highway vehicle so couldnt say much there. When i did drive on the highway i was good in fourth bout 50 mph...bogged down in 5th...since then i went to yj suspension 38.5x11 boggers with 6.5 tcase and stock axles...no issues what so ever in the mud..no problem slinging the mud...in the process of switching to 1.6l 8valve, dual mikuni carbs, 85 yota axle 5.29 locker front and rear.
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How much money do you want to spend? If you have a couple thousand you can probably set up to run 35"s for a while. If money is tight, keep the tire size to 31-32" and be ok. The big tires look bling but the driver is a big part of it also what do you plan on doing with it?

I would bet there are several hundred threads about how big of a tire you can run on this or that if you use the search feature.
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I run 34/9.5/15 TSL's with stock gears / axles / TC and a 1.6 8V. It cruises arond town all rite. On the highway no 5th gear with 60mph @ 4K rpm. Off road its all mud and pulls itself fine but works harder than it should.

I've got a 6:5:1 TC to install which should fix both the off road low end grunt and top end highway speed (70 ish mph).

I don't plan on rock crawling in my area so this combo should work out.

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I have 35" 10.50 cut boggers, yota's with 5.29, 6.5 t case gears, unbreakable t case cradle, locker up front welded rear, KAD drive shafts front & rear and a stock 1.3 with a weber. Im just now getting to the point that i dont break something everytime i ride due to the tires but I am by no means easy on it thats what i built it for so most all my riding is offroad (50 is top speed but will do it with no problem incline or not). I have broken 26 spline chromoly axles, stripped the teeth off of 2 sets of 5.38 sammi gears, twisted up t case mounts, broke u joints, slip yokes and even a stock yota axle. Most of the breakage was after I cut the tires.

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