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Old 11-06-2007, 09:33 PM   #1
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neutral safty bypass how-to

As a trail rig i dont like the neutral switch. Bypassing this is EASY and can be done in a matter of minutes.



Unplug this wire harness from under the dash. It has 2 black wire one with a red srtipe and one with a yellow stripe. Yes this is the same one that goes to the starter sloenoid or clicky starter fix relay. it has 2 female connectors at the pedal and a clip connector to the rest of the harness. push the tab in and pull apart.

I cut the fermale ends off. Stripped the ends and soldered it together. Then i put heatshrink on it. Notice in the pic i folded the end over while it was still hot.



Next plug it back in and check for proper starter operation. Enjoy.


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Old 11-06-2007, 09:40 PM   #2
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Thanks, I'll probably end up doing that with mine. I don't much care for that switch either, not on the trail.
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:54 PM   #3
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I always thought they would fail naturally over time, it is good to know you can manually make something stop working.
nice write up.
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:57 PM   #4
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The problem is they usually fail in the open position causing a no start condition.
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:00 PM   #5
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I have done that mod before. One bad thing for me was my ex got in the car and started it in gear and ran into my K5.
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If you like the safety feature but need the option on the trail to not have to push the clutch in you can put the wire through a switch and use it only when needed and not all the time.

Another good write up!!
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:58 PM   #7
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true you can cut the red/black wire and put a single throw single pole switch in it.
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true you can cut the red/black wire and put a single throw single pole switch in it.
That is a good idea... I bypassed the switch on my 1ton... I was workin on it one day and went to start it... Well It was in gear and dam nearly ran me over!!
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Old 11-07-2007, 09:36 AM   #9
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Yup, I did that one a while back as well. Funny how some times its the cheapest easiest mods that you appreciate the most.

My favorite cheap easy mods are this one of course, along with the thumb throttle and dash mounted gauges... cheap, easy, effective.
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Old 11-07-2007, 12:24 PM   #10
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And if you put a three way switch in there, you can wire it so that one of the positions locks it out on purpose! Just a little security when you need it... just don't make the switch obvious.
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And if you put a three way switch in there, you can wire it so that one of the positions locks it out on purpose! Just a little security when you need it... just don't make the switch obvious.
Damn Bill! I had not thought of that and now I have another project to add to my list!

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I know this is an old thread, but I think it might be best to post my question in here rather than starting a new thread. Can keep info together a bit more that way.

Looks like RedWolf and Billjohn haven't been around for a couple months, but hopefully some of you other guys should know.

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And if you put a three way switch in there, you can wire it so that one of the positions locks it out on purpose! Just a little security when you need it... just don't make the switch obvious.
Using a single pole, triple throw switch would this be wired correctly to do the afore mentioned?

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errr why? Easier ways to put a switch in the ignition circut.
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You do have a point there. The more I think about it though, that "dead" position in the 3 way switch would be rather useless for me anyway. If I'm going to crawl under my rig, I'm going to be positive that I won't get run over and disconnect the battery. I'll probably just wire that neutral safety switch with a 2 position switch so in 1 position I can start it in neutral with the clutch out and the other position so it acts normally.
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>>>>I installed my clicky starter mod myself and cant even remember seeing that jack.....much less if I have it ...definitely going to check, pak far from wall and put first and see if betsy cranks over.

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Gonna run me a switch for this! How would you wire it to have a.

ON/OFF/AUTO?

On being bypassing the clutch safety switch/turn to start
Off being killing power/dead
Auto being like the switch was never there/push clutch and turn to start
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To much thinking involved. Zip tie the switch in the closed position so you can start it anytime and wire a switch into the ignition circuit if you want an easy anti theft deal. I'm OK with zip tying the switch as I grew up with manuals that those things never came on.
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Gonna run me a switch for this! How would you wire it to have a.

ON/OFF/AUTO?

On being bypassing the clutch safety switch/turn to start
Off being killing power/dead
Auto being like the switch was never there/push clutch and turn to start
3 throw switch.. But idk how to wire it
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3 throw switch.. But idk how to wire it
Same. I think I might just put on a off/on switch wired through one of the wires. Much simpler. On it works like normal, and off it don't work.

Kind of would like the bypass but I dont know how to do that.
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I think it would be like I drew on that notepad.. if you can make any sense of that. A 3 position switch should have 6 pins on it. One row of 2 pins will be left open, acting as a kill position. The next row of 2 pins will interrupt the existing neutral safety wires after the power has went through the switch. This should still make use of the stock switch. For the last 2 rows of pins, you'll need to splice into the wires before they get to the switch. This bypasses it and makes it on all the time. So you have kill, switched via stock safety switch, and always on positions. I can't guarantee this is right.. but in my head it seems right.
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clutch-starter wiring

Here now is an official MS paint drawing (created by an alleged "guru") of the Samurai (and Trackick) clutch/starter wiring looks like:



It also shows the wiring layout for an optional "Clicky Starter" mod.

Note that a separate switch needs to be installed in order to allow temporary bypass of the clutch switch via a switch.

Also note that +12DC arrives at the clutch switch though the ignition switch (the round, gray icon in the drawing). There is no need to apply +12VDC to any clutch pedal bypass switch unless you want your starter to run all the time or otherwise fry your electrical system!

In the original post, GRAYWOLF GRAPHICS used an extra plug (from a salvage yard?) that would normally be attached directly to the clutch pedal switch itself. He tied the two wires together to simulate a closed switch and plugged it into the circuit thus bypassing the clutch switch.

The nice thing about this mod is that you can simply plug the original clutch pedal switch back in for normal operation OR you can remove it as a cheap way to keep the truck from starting and getting stolen!

An even more effective anti-theft method would be to use the existing clutch pedal connector plug. This would require the rewiring of the plug back to the clutch switch if you ever wanted to restore normal clutch/starter operation...

I will add the defeat wiring that billjohn suggested soon...

I hope that this helps!
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Why could you just put a jumper wire in the clutch switch and go on??? That is what i did and worked fine....
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Safety. I have people drive my rig that are new to manuals, so it wouldn't be a wise thing to do. If it's just you that drives your rig off pavement, then I'm sure it's fine.
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My 92 yota truck that i raped for parts at one time had a push botton switch/relay from factory for this purpose right on the dash.
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That's a great idea, thanks for sharing! Now I won't forget to flip it back to the normal position.
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