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Old 10-24-2010, 11:34 PM   #1
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Lockers in DD, help with big decision.

Ok so now my rig is almost completely built except for my axles. Which is my big question mark. I have my TT YJ kit coming, and it's time to decide what the H I'm going to do. I have 33's with a Fresh 16v about to snug its way in. As of now I have my stock Zuk axles, with Sky full OTT. I also have 4.30 gearing front and rear sitting in my garage.

BIG DECISION: Do I go Yota's or stick build the Zuk Axles?

Each Side Debate:

Zuk Axles: I already have them. I have complete steering for them, and gearing if need be. I have my pricey rims and wheel spacers on them as well that I would need to deal. They have stock shafts with no lockers. Question: If I stay with Zuk Axles, how do you suggest I lock them?

Yota's: I have a deal on a pair of Yota's, I brought it up in another thread on here, the deal is:

Front: 83 Toy Mini with 4.10 gears, brand new aussie locker, rebuilt knockles, with ARP knuckle, hub studs, high steer arms with drag link, stock axle shafts.

Rear: FJ 40, 4.10 gears and a detroit locker.

If I went with the Yota's, gearing is solved, beef is solved, lockers are solved and damn good ones at that, BUT. The huge BUT- I'm worried about the ground clearance and weight of the FJ. Another member with FJ's told me that he would only use the Toy's if it were for 35's+. I really don't want to jump to 35's. A bigger tire just sounds like more problems for my case. Daily driver, and I'm trying to keep the COG as low as possible with still doing what I want.

I figure I should definitely decide before putting on the YJ kit. If not, I'm going to have a lot of complications with that when making the swap. I'd rather do it once then twice. So fellow guru's, what in the H should I do?
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Old 10-24-2010, 11:44 PM   #2
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Go with the yotas. 33's will be fine with these. The much heavier weight of the yotas will help your cog.
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Old 10-25-2010, 01:58 AM   #3
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agreed with the yotas you will never worry about breaking
heavy axles= better traction and lower CG
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Old 10-25-2010, 12:13 PM   #4
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I would go with the yotas as long as you can get them for a decent price..
I run 33's with samurai axles and don't have any issues but sometimes I worry im gonna snap something.. You can feel it straining occasionally..
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Old 10-25-2010, 12:18 PM   #5
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I completely agree. Go with the Toyota's now. 33's are about the limit for stock axles. I don't have any breakage problems, but a lot of people do. I am a big fan of light cheap zook axles, but if better is available for cheap, do it and don't look back.

In such a short wheelbase rig clearance is not going to be an issue. You will also have extra width for more stability.

Now this IMHO is big. You will get more unsprung weight. Something the samurai is lacking, right now I have zook axles, and spacers. My wheelbase is fairly wide. I still feel like there is not enough weight on the ground when i do off camber stuff. i think I would be a lot more comfortable with another 50 to 100 Lbs on the axles.

Going to Toyota's now would be simple. Imagine you put all that time effort and money in to the Samurai axles, and break an axle. Then you would be wishing for those Toyota's.

I am a fan of "run what you brung", and "work with what you got". For me here Toyota's are going cost me $500-$1000 just for the axles. So the choice is clear for me..stay zook and be easy on it. Because that's what is available and the cheapest to run at the moment.

If I found a inexpensive deal on Toyota axles they would be under my rig tomorrow.
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Old 10-25-2010, 12:42 PM   #6
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Ah shit. Looks like it's going to be Toy's, haha. I would love to be able to play more and harder knowing I have the Toy's. Just throwing this out there, what kind of price would YOU guys pay for that set? Without me saying the price, I'm interested in knowing what you guys would pay.
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Old 10-25-2010, 01:22 PM   #7
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well the lockers are right near $500 without the install, the high steer is near $300 or more depending on which brand, ad how complete. Add another $50 for the studs, since they put in studs and stuff they probably did a rebuild too.

Here local $1000 would be a screaming deal if they ere in bolt in condition. I would expect to pay about $1500 if I was looking for that type of a setup and had the cash to spend.

I can find a set of Toyota's here that are in bad shape for $350-$400 a good set is between $500-$800 with no upgrades.

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I am a DIY guy so I will probably find a rough set for $350 or so and make a project out of getting them ready to use.
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Old 10-25-2010, 02:06 PM   #8
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Go toyota's now. I had built sami axles on 33's and eventually broke them. If your worried about hanging your diff with the toyota axles shave them so you get more clearance.
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for a geared locker ji steer setup i would plan on at least 450-500 for starteds that on the low end of what i would want
think 260 for each locker
410s could have come stock but if not at least 160 each
hi steer 250
your looking at just under 1000.00 in parts and that with just one r&p asuming one axle already had that ratio
even if you paid 700 you would still be getting a deal in the end
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